When an elephant is killed by a hunter, NOTHING is wasted!

Many anti-hunters claim that elephants are only harvested for their ivory. These time-lapse images prove otherwise.

Hunting of elephants by tourists is cost effective, profitable and easily monitored. The foreign hunter pays for all participation in the hunt, including government fees, and for taking the natural resource. A government representative is usually present. Animals are taken under a quota. The stakeholders in such an arrangement include the hunter, the professional hunter (guide), the regulatory agency (National Parks or Wildlife) and the people who live with the elephants (the community). Source: http://www.iwmc.org

Watch this time lapse that shows the entire process of breaking down an elephant for it’s meat.

As you can see, an elephant killed by a hunter is utilized to the fullest to feed an entire village of local people. Aside from the fact that protein is rare and VERY valued in rural Africa, the money spent on the hunt is a huge benefit to elephant conservation, as well as the locals living in the area.

Laws against transporting ivory into the U.S. have made it difficult for hunters seeking an elephant in recent years, but there are still areas where these massive animals can be taken legally and transported home.

The anti-hunting community would like you to believe the elephant is endangered and on the verge of extinction. Facts however paint a very different picture.

There are in excess of 70,000 elephants in Zimbabwe today – nearly double the amount of elephants that the environment has the capacity to support due to human encroachment on suitable habitat. If we want elephants to be around for future generations, elephant hunting is an important conservation tool that must be considered.

  • It IS legal to hunt elephants in many African countries.
  • The meat is given to local people, it’s never wasted.
  • The money from hunting the elephant goes towards elephant conservation. The trophy fee on a elephant is quite expensive, more than any of the locals will make in a lifetime, so this system works out well for all involved.
  • Once an elephant is shot, the villagers just start to appear. Word gets out fast. It is like a celebration when an elephant is killed, the entire village will join in.
  • No protein ever goes to waste in Africa.
  • Several of the ivory hunters who wrote books commented on how quickly the meat was used, and on how villagers would scavenge and boil the green meat from carrion days old if they found it. The natives cut all of the meat off the bone and take it to their village to eat. They don’t let anything go to waste. Africa is amazing.

The myth of the “elephant graveyard” began because nobody ever saw any dead ones lying about. Within hours, or at most a couple of days, a dead elephant will be completely gone.

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171 Comments

  1. An amazing series of photos… worth checking out.

    1. L. E. Fant at 10:44 am

      Well this is Karma at its best, one less , goes to show your not as big and hard as you think you are unless your pointing a gun.

      Celebrated hunter crushed to death by baby elephant as he tried to measure its ivory for U.S. client
      Ian Gibson, 55, was hunting in Zimbabwe for an American client
      He was taking a rest when he spotted the bull elephant in the Zambezi Valley
      Approached it to measure ivory, fired one shot then was crushed to death
      Funeral to be paid for by Dallas Safari Club, where he was a popular figure

      ‘He was so experienced and this is a most unexpected tragedy.’

      The news has come a month after a study was released warning that ivory hunting is continuing to diminish the elephant population in Africa.

      A report by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, which is known as CITES and regulates wildlife trade, said poaching rates of elephants in areas that are being monitored still exceed their natural birth rates.

      Conservationists say tens of thousands of elephants have been killed in Africa in recent years as demand for ivory in Asia, particularly China, increases. Past estimates of Africa’s elephant population have ranged from 420,000 to 650,000.

      1. Don Goodman at 9:47 am

        So much for the pro- hunting lobby’s statement that elephant hunting is necessary to conserve them! The CITES report states the opposite. The excuse that the locals eat them is because they are hungry, not that the benevolent hunters provide it
        Ian Gibson was hunting the elephant to order for an American client and he was interested in the size of the tusks presumably as a wall mounted trophy.
        Gibson knew the risks . Hunters Thousands – Elephants 1

      2. Wendy at 11:38 am

        Karma is a bitch!! That’s what the guy deserved. And for the other guy well put it this way. Your next!! I hope the god that you suffer and hope that someone takes your bones and make a Collection. No animal Should be killed for just the souvenir. I’m glad that the elephants are not wasted. And the meat is going for the towns people. I know food is scarce and that they are using everything from the elephants. I thought IVORY was illegal in the United States ?? I hope that they catch this guy with IVORY in his house!!!!

  2. Cory Glauner at 9:26 pm

    That's incredible!

  3. Justin Sparks at 6:35 pm

    wow

    1. Bonnie at 3:31 am

      Hey Justin, it’s Bonnie. Terry Holt’s oldest daughter. I’ve been doing a lot of research about elephants and I just so happen to come across your comment, anyway thought it was pretty cool. Hope all is well for you.

  4. Lester Arnold at 1:42 am

    had to stop hunting elephants…could not carry the decoys any more.

  5. Tee BadBee at 3:18 am

    reminds me of the plane from lord of war.

  6. Elephants have more or less the same emotional aspects as we humans have, and a excellent memory. How can it possibly be legal to hunt elephants with this knowledge? The remaining elephants are left with great sorrows (as it is proved that elephants grieve over their lost ones) and traumatic memories. It is great that everything is used, especially if this covers most of the hunting in general, but still.. They can use another kind of animal – a animal that is not affected by the same emotional stress.

    1. Alain Aguiere at 1:36 am

      oui Bamby aussi pleure! Si on ne valorise pas l’éléphant par la chasse , se qu’il rapporte aux villageois en protéine ,en moyens financier et en travail! Il reste juste les dégâts faits par lui, les morts fait par lui et l’argent que les braconniers ce font avec lui! Alors la raison fait que l’hypocrisie n’a pas sa place la… la zoolâtrie devra s’appliquer ailleurs ou elle fera encore beaucoup de dégâts!

    2. JoeSnow at 10:27 am

      They aren’t allowed to hunt young,healthy animals only animals that are too old to breed. Those older animals eat the forage and contribute nothing to the continuation of the species. By culling the animals incapable of breeding, it helps to insure that there will be food for the remaining members of the herd. It is better for the survival of the species overall that these older animals be killed otherwise the rest could face starvation after all the forage is gone.

      1. RR at 9:35 pm

        That’s actually not true. The do hunt younger animals and their ugly money even buys them endangered species.

      2. Sylv Taylor at 10:59 pm

        The problem is that the older ones also are the ones who are obeyed by younger elephants, and who know all the feeding routes. When you cull the elders, you end up with a lot more unruly ones, especially young, aggressive males. And the remaining ones have less knowledge of which routes are best.

        They are extremely long-lived and social, so adults past breeding age are still valuable to the herd. The old females act as matriarchs, while the old males usually keep the young bulls in line. It’s fairly similar to a human tribal setup, or like gorillas, for the same reasons.

        That’s not to say that folks there can’t use the meat, but culling older animals causes more damage than you’d think.

      3. Concerned at 12:15 am

        How can you use a sick logic like that. So in a few years a sick mind like your may suggest that elderly people should be killed because they ve already spread their seeds enough and they dont contribute anymore. It is a great creature and because some idiot can afford to pay to kill this beautiful, emotional and sensitive creature, they should all go and hunt another being. How can you be this much ego centric , you are trying to justify killing a being is good for the community. I suggest if you want to do something good for the community, donate the money or provide food for the ones in need, rather than spending money to a beautiful being.

        1. Anita Lewis at 6:58 pm

          I had a professor from Africa. He had earned a doctorate in economics from Columbia, a very intelligent man whom I adored. He explained how all the donations, whether monetary or not, are mostly aborted either at the coastline as it is coming off the docks or through various systems in place that are guarded by governmental officials who are very corrupt. They line their pockets and allow the poor commoners only enough for survival. Many people die from starvation, so donating money is not helpful. It is better to feed the poor Africans by killing old elephants so that humans can live. Is it sad for the old elephant to die? Yes, but it is much much worse to starve human beings in order to save elephants. Any logic that protects animals over people is seriously flawed. Also, I know this article is true, because my dad did some missionary work there helping to build a church in very crude conditions, and some of his photos looks the same. When word got out that he needed a few hands (and feet) to help, they came from miles. He bought loaves of bread and milk and handed out to everyone. I say feet, because they used their bare feet to mix concrete that was thrown in ditches. They also hauled water from far away. There were suddenly so many that he couldn’t believe it, because there appeared to be no towns nearby.

          1. Cory Glauner at 8:25 am

            Thank you for your reply Anita.

          2. Norma at 4:18 pm

            That’s how it works keep the people at the bottom enslaved, so are forced to be reliant on the kill, how can a people rise up against their manufactured poverty, the money stays at the Top, and the bottom get thrown the scraps, this is what the money has brought to the country, this is big money managment, this is an industry created for and by those at the Top, it is an economy that only serves benefits the interest of big money.
            Conservation is what they decide it’s going to be.

            The sphycopathy of those who hold a position of wealth and power are unable to view or an animal as a social being with intelligents having sphycological, and biological needs, they only see a Target.
            They have created a play ground for themselves and built an upward economy around it, when you have sphycotic approach to business and money, money is never just enough, they then need power, when they have these nor is that enough, the next drug is “hunting and Hunting”
            The problem with this is “hunter gatherers” are things of our very distant past, when people had to hunt to survive, like the real Americans the native indians they would not kill at certain times, and in accordance with the laws if nature, and the animals natural life cycle, they only took what they needed to survive, and skins were also for survival and warmth. That’s what a hunter does, if elephants roamed early America the native indians studied animals, they would have held the animal in high spiritual esteem, Elephants would not have been part of their food chain.
            Elephants are not a natural part of the human food chain for humans, we have farms for the animals in the human food chain, to say that the villagers benefit, and say it in such a way, that for not you they would starve, in my view they are starving because of big money, and you throw your scraps as you would for a starving begging dog, the dog is completely reliant on the scraps.
            Here’s and idea give the viligers farms, Turn conservation over to those who have studied Elephants, and understands their needs.

            What we have in present day “hunter and Hunting” is that it does fit the criteria of what hunting was for, it was to survive, these animals are not being killed because the must be killed to survive, this is egotistical killing of animals for pleasure, their money lost its luster, the power wasn’t enough unless their is control, they have reach the peak of their last, it’s as Macho as you could every possible be, to hold that gun, aim and bring down a beast that dangerous and powerful, that’s the Target, that’s the biggest kick a killer can get.
            This is not hunting, this is the description they give to cover what it really is, when you think about what hunting really was, and why we can understand the need to survive.
            But we have not yet been given a reason that we can understand why they do it now?
            There is no reason why men and women look at a beautiful animal and think “Kill it’ that’s why the can only be one reason that they do it “enjoyment”
            The animals that are slaughtered by people who can pay for the thrill of a kill
            Farm yard animals are not in their league.

          3. J. Duffek-Kowal at 7:12 am

            “Any logic that protects animals over people is seriously flawed.” – You might not be aware of the fact, but IF there is one single species seriously overpopulating, then that’s HUMANS. It’s humans that keep breeding and multiplying even if the land can’t sustain the people already living there. It’s humans that need ever MORE land, more fields and pastures to feed themselves, killing (and yes, if there’s already overpopulation and consequent lack of food, also eating) whatever gets in their way.
            If you really want to help “poor African villagers”, don’t shoot elephants – provide CONTRACEPTIVES, and the education to USE them!

      4. A bunny hugger no doubt at 7:25 am

        JoeSnow! get your facts right! Too old to breed? Are you kidding me? It takes a male 27 years to become “interesting” as a mating partner for females! These days one is hard-pressed to find bulls above 45 in the wild because they are hunted and/or poached for their ivory. Also BTW according to this article it doesn’t concern an old bull. Goes to show how well informed you hunters are about the effects of what you’re doing!

        Huh. my message needs to be read before posted? We’re being sensored? What else to expect of a hunting site I suppose …..

      5. Jack Harris at 5:19 pm

        I wonder what elephants did before the Great White Professional Hunter came to Africa? Would they have eaten and bred themselves out of their habitat? I think Not!

    3. François-Louis at 9:12 am

      En fait la question serrait, quel réaction aurait les chasseurs d’éléphant si demain un état légalisait la chasse a l’humain, et qu’un membre de leur famille, un ami, voir un de leurs enfants, devenait la cible d’un nouveau type de chasseur, l’humain non plus n’est pas en vois de disparition.

      Je n’aime pas les fou de dieux, mais je ne peu m’empêcher de faire un parallèle.
      il est des endroits sur terres ou certains hommes en tuent d’autres, pourquoi alors les traiter de terroristes, ils sont chez eux et ont déclarés la chasse a soldat légal.

      Je peu comprendre qu’on régule une population, même par la chasse, mais certains contournent les règles et et dans le cas du dentiste c’est pas la première fois, c’est un débile, et un menteur. Il c’est fait déjà prendre à mentir deux fois, et la c’est la troisième.

      Quant à la chasse pour réguler les populations elle doit s’efforcer de ne pas faire souffrir l’animal. et qu’elle profite aux populations locales sous contrôle.

    4. Peg Bradley at 7:04 pm

      I wholeheartedly agree. I would like to have legitimate cause to inflict what I perceive unnecessary culling of such an intelligent species, and then have the audacity to revel in carving out their dollar parts. despicably disgusting!!

  7. Richard Repsher at 1:44 pm

    Very interesting Christi Thank you!

  8. Collin Cranfill Humans are animals, too…

  9. Royal Price at 10:06 pm

    Eva-Lena – African residents (human and otherwise) typically don't have the luxury to choose what'll be on the menu for dinner. These creatures have to take what they can get, and cannot afford to pass up the opportunity to feast. Elephants are massive creatures that can provide sustenance to a large community.

    Keep in mind that African residents typically have a different perspective on life, death, and loss than most humans. In the last century alone there has been a near constant stream of war, famine, and rebellions in Africa.

    1. JoeSnow at 10:35 am

      Yes, and elephants are only exotic to Westerners because we don’t have them roaming the streets here like they do in Africa and India. In those places, not only are they considered a food animal but they are also anywhere from a nuisance to a danger. They eat a lot of the plant life, leaving less for the natives and when they stampede they can be a deadly threat capable of wiping out entire villages. People here don;t think of those things because they are outside of our everyday experiences.

    2. Mishqueen at 9:31 am

      …Did…you just call both the HUMANS and the elephants…’creatures’? …Both? What makes the African human residents merely ‘creatures’? Or would you call your western brethren creatures, or yourself and your family also? Have you ever casually referred to yourself that way?

      Do you fancy that you have compassion for the Africans? Not if you call them creatures, you don’t. That’s called pity, which requires you to look down to a lesser people from your better situation, not across the board as equals.

      1. jos at 4:14 pm

        we are all creatures… african, human, elephant, lion, mouse… creatures. And AFrica needs to get their shit together.

  10. Suresh Kr Meena at 4:19 pm

    huting is a bad habit.

    1. Tarquin B at 10:24 pm

      No. Smoking is a bad habit, Drug use, is a bad habit, Drink Driving, is a bad habit, Back chatting your mother, is a bad habit.

      Hunting is a necessity of life in some countries.

      Educate yourself.

      1. Peg Bradley at 7:07 pm

        Now that comment resonates.

  11. Cory Glauner at 4:57 pm

    I can think of worse…

  12. Antonino Angileri at 11:49 pm

    A great way to feed who doesn't have food!

  13. Amazing!

  14. Billy Dustin Galloway at 10:14 pm

    I would rather pay to hunt the people there are a lot of them I guess I would have to shoot more to feed a village.

    1. jos at 4:14 pm

      I agree.

  15. Jeff Litteken at 12:31 am

    those people are like maggots. I mean that in the nicest possible way.

  16. We've posted this before, but it's pretty cool.

  17. Chris Cantler at 12:44 am

    Our govt. should look at this…everyone works together, no waste, what a concept.

  18. Rick Smith Sr at 1:00 am

    Cory Glauner Hunters are usually the people you see getting up to go to work, hunting takes money, food stamps not excepted (not intended to insult the unfortunate people that really need assistance), no money, no hunting, if I didn't hunt, several people in my family would have nothing to eat, the animals I harvest are divided up between family and friends who can't afford to hunt or to pay 5.00/lb for meat, if providing for my family and friends is a bad habit, then bad habits aren't as bad as we assume. Fend for youself

  19. Rick Smith Sr at 1:02 am

    I misspelled yourself on purpose, as a little jab at the guy who misspelled HUNTING, (huting??)

    1. Piper2 at 4:33 pm

      Did you also spell accepted (rather than excepted) wrong on purpose?

  20. Marty Johncox at 5:54 pm

    Fascinating. As long as there are good regulations in place to promote sustainability, elephants should be hunted like any other animal. Nice to see the animal feeds so many people.

  21. Matthew C. Lydall at 6:18 pm

    a BAD habit??? well, if you can't be "good" be good at it!!!

  22. Ailsa Jean Loudon at 9:37 pm

    What crap you hunters speak! Let's go hunt your families and then let the cannibals finish them off and that is sustainable beause their bodies provided nourishment for them!

  23. Allan Booyjzsen at 12:07 am

    "They don’t let anything go to waste." That is incorrect, the Elephants Life is wated.

    1. Luke at 3:26 pm

      it’s not wasted if it feeds so many people, it is how nature works death creates more life. You privileged people living in cities and shopping at the supermarket will never understand life and how nature works

  24. Glen Vance at 3:30 am

    hahahaha….thats a classic!!!!

  25. Scott Nicholson at 3:52 pm

    I'd rather hunt for my food than buy it at a store. For me, it feels more responsible. I agree with the overall sentiment, that sustainability and ethical hunting is of utmost importance.

  26. Gary McIntyre at 3:52 pm

    Elephant hunting is a good way to feed the poor.

  27. Ailsa Jean Loudon at 4:19 pm

    Have all you people seen the poached animals in Africa being left to rot? Get real! They get left to rot for greedy people like you who want their tusks etc.

    1. Peg Bradley at 7:09 pm

      Thank-u!!!

    2. Webb Glauner at 9:24 pm

      Poachers, not hunters. Poachers are evil scum, while we hunters are working to protect both the elephants and the villagers. Much of our money goes directly to the conservation of the species, while any donation you may make will likely get diluted by fees and administration costs, and only the bare minimum will actually go to the villagers or elephants.

  28. […] See what happens to an elephant after an elephant hunt. Very interesting. […]

  29. Beth Johnston at 10:42 pm

    This is very enlightening!

  30. […] Nothing is wasted – See What Happens to an Elephant After Elephant Hunting […]

  31. Dennis Duguay at 12:53 am

    I love elephants! 🙂

  32. Liam Joseph Porter at 5:29 am

    Yea teach the poor people its okay to hunt elephants then who will regulate when a poor man wants to feed his family you have shown him the the way start killing elephants ….
    This must be stopped immediately …..
    There is no justification for the killing of elephants …..

    1. Mike at 11:51 pm

      You tree huggers are intolerable. What poor man can afford a two bore gin? Each flipping bullet costs $100.

      Also, you have never experienced hunger like these people. You’ve never had to look into your child’s face and tell him the elephant is more important than him, and he should find something else to eat. Get a freaking group on the real world dude. Civilization is a fallacy; we are all cavemen deep down. The only reason you are here today, able to talk trash, is that many of your ancestors were successful hunters who fed their families.

  33. Frank Gaitan at 4:24 pm

    I think these fact should be known wide and clear.

  34. Chris Avena at 9:24 pm

    I wish we could buy some of the African game food here in the states.

    1. susan winchester at 6:22 pm

      So very wrong….The older family members have the knowledge taught to them in times of drought etc not to mention the family dynamic of aunts cousins young bulls etc. This whole article is such bs………..the demand for ivory is decimating these animals ….watering holes being poisoned with cyanide and in Zim alone the loss of 300 from one waterhole alone! Almost wiped out in Tanzania not to mention central Africa Please educate yourselves!! https://www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org/html/debate.html

  35. Debra Masters at 7:03 pm

    I'm a gape! Never would I have believed a whole elephant would be gone 'poof'. I do believe if they can be hunted, to feed people then nothing should go to waste. Including the ivory. Thank you for the interesting information.

  36. Gary Bingham at 1:08 am

    This is why I argue with people about trophy hunting. It can be a good thing if it's properly dealt with.

  37. Carina Ekström at 8:24 am

    "Nothing is wasted" you say. A beautiful and highly intelligent animal's life was wasted. Why can't people grow gardens instead? Where grass and trees can grow there are ways to garden. That's where the efforts should be focused. Population control should be focused on the humans who encroach upon land where the animals have always lived, not on the animals.

    1. Me at 7:25 am

      Wow! You value an animal’s life more than human life? So you’re saying if one of these huge animals is stampeding toward you, we should just let it go and…oops you are road kill. AND you are saying if your child were starving and had to have food that you would just let him/her starve to death to save the life of this elephant? Not only do the elephants serve as a life source for these people, the money that hunters pay to hunt them help their economy! Oh wait…I bet you think we should take care of them with OUR resources. Socialism…that’s the way to go. It has worked so well for others throughout history. (100% sarcasm)

  38. Kirsty MacColl at 4:04 am

    It is stupid and though it may not effect anything you care about. It does for me, I love elephants and the population has changed a lot because if you people killing them

  39. Christopher Cilley at 7:30 am

    ROFLMHO!

  40. Jason Acker at 10:49 am

    Here shannon is what happens to an elephant that is shot

  41. Alef Perez at 2:05 pm

    Usually a hunter pays $16000 to $45000 to culled an elephant monies that also go to villages in the area , the animal right left wing big mouths , use pics of dead elephants to say this is an abuse , yet they provide no monies to villagers in Africa or meat for their belly.

    1. S at 2:08 am

      The money usually goes to the local official who was bribed and the western owned guide company.

    2. susan winchester at 6:24 pm

      Wrong! More money is raised by private organisations and tourism than is generated by the hunting fraternity. Easy to look that stat up……………

  42. Bernd Mergener at 4:04 pm

    the last man on Easter Island saw the last tree and he was cold ,so he cut it down, no moor people on the island
    !!!

  43. Alexia Burdine at 3:15 pm

    WOW that was very interesting!!!

  44. Jon Davies at 3:58 pm

    The truth was out there .

  45. Zachary K. Houghton at 3:19 am

    African version of Black Friday..

  46. Sebastian Zarzycki at 3:15 pm

    That's why dinosaurs' bones are so rare and difficult to find.

  47. That is good press. We need more education like this for those who do not understand the conservation efforts that we go to and the ethics behind it.

  48. Mark VanWinkle at 5:50 am

    Smoked Elephant is delicious !

  49. Kat Hay at 7:19 pm

    Elephants are endangered, people. There are other ways to feed people. What do I think? I think killing endangered species is criminal regardless of how "responsibly" you dispense the spoils.

    1. Aldo van Reenen at 11:12 am

      Elephants are definately not endangered in southern africa! Get your facts straight before you fall over your own ignorance!

      1. susan winchester at 6:27 pm

        SA has just had it’s first incident of poaching of an elephant!! They cannot control the poaching of their rhino – and who do you think is going to be providing elephant families for reintroduction to the rest of Africa like they are with their lions, rhino’s etc??

      2. brainpower at 3:49 am

        Some people live in Disneyland and nothing will convince them to leave it for the real world. Some vegan guru or animal right’s guru once said that elephants are an endangered species and therefore elephants are an endangered species. Full stop.

        1. A bunny hugger no doubt at 7:05 am

          Counting elephants is part of my long-term profession and expertise and the picture is far more complicated than you state. Zim’s numbers are heavily disputed to start with. They don’t allow for external independant organizations to do the surveys. But true, whether 20,000 or 70,000 Zim remains a stronghold but Zim is surrounded by countries known to have disastrous declines (60% and more in only 5 years) and there is no stamp on ivory that allows to find out where it originates from. Species can disappear very rapidly. Between the late 70’s ad 80’s Africa lost more than half of its elephant population to poaching. Several countries that had elephants 10 years ago don’t have elephants today (check the updated AED). One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see the danger that elephants as a species are currently facing. When there is a legal market there is automatically a window for white-washing. And one cannot say the SOuthern countries are less corrupt. Zim of all places…..
          Finally, I am personally against trophy hunting because the same “sport” challenge can be obtained without actually killing the animal. Eles are intelligent and can distinguish a threatening person from a curious one. Hunters always seem to get chased, I wonder why…. There is something ethically wrong with selling licenses to “kill”. There are other solutions with overpopulation (don’t forget the problem of overpopulation often finds its origin with human interference – not uncommon through over-hunting in the past). Doing it for local communities really? You want poverty alleviation of a community to depend on a tiny wealthy elite’s wish to satisfy her/his bloodlust? That is a very colonial approach. Then on the other hand, I suppose its sustainable, because there’s not a lack of wealthy greedy eletists who will put their bloodlust satisfaction before the wellbeing of others.

  50. Pat Tillery Weeks at 9:30 pm

    like ants!!

  51. Ciro Rico at 2:43 am

    96 elephants are killed everyday in Africa according to the WCS. This is clearly unsustainable!!!

  52. Raul Fernandez at 8:18 pm

    Learn to spell

    1. Peg Bradley at 7:19 pm

      where?

  53. Brian Falk at 9:29 pm

    You are an idiot. How do you think these people survive? Pretty sure they can't just go down to their local walmart and pick up some mess produced garbage America calls food hop in the mini van and go back home.

  54. Mike Kupetsky at 10:48 pm

    they are not endangered everywhere and are legal to hunt. Also the money hunters spend for one of these hunts brings a much needed boost to the local economy. But antis will just be stubborn no matter what the facts

  55. Shawn Sutherland at 11:27 pm

    hey do you think elephants will care once people are gone cause they starved to death? shut up

  56. Vicky Storey at 1:19 am

    That us terrible. The people aren't allowed to hunt to feed there families, but somebody who has a lot of money can come in and do it, so there dependent on a rich guy to kill one, so they can eat. Why can't they take the monies they get from the " legal" kill and buy a herd of cattle do they can eat all the time. That would help the people more than killing those poor elephant and trying to make it sound honorable by saying there feeding the poor. Just a thought.

    1. Ernst at 12:13 am

      It is not that easy. In most conservation/hunting areas in Southern Africa it is almost impossible to breed with livestock by villagers. Firstly predators will catch your livestock and secondly most live stock will die because of tsetse fly bites.

    2. Luke at 3:30 pm

      because in most cases the money is used to protect the elephants and the land
      and goes to fund anti poaching groups and local law enforcement, buying a herd of cows is probably not the best way to spend the money but I see your point

  57. Matthew Schneider at 11:27 am

    a place where breeding should DEFINITELY slow down, so many starving people, easiest solution is to control breeding. Until that happens, people have to eat, imagine how many people an elephant feeds.

  58. Christina Miller Mader at 3:09 am

    Poor elephants. I'm sure there are other things for the villagers to eat. They're like a bunch of vultures. So barbaric. At least I hope they give some meat to those dogs in the pictures. Looks like they're starving to death.

  59. Mil Bogue at 12:13 am

    Very interesting! I learned something today.

  60. Haha! I read some of the comments to the article & had to refrain from commenting! The one lady said it was horrible to kill the elephant, they should grow gardens instead! LOL I wanted to ask her if she had looked at the pictures! Doesn't look like much edible vegetation would be real possible to me!

  61. Killing Elephants, killing people, its all the economics of it my freinds. Sad but true.

  62. Robert Lea at 4:36 pm

    If human beings are the only species to survive, the starving natives will have to justify having to eat you and me in order to survive. Besides, can you imagine a world with only people.
    Better take care of this Earth, because it's the only known world that we can live .

    1. Peg Bradley at 7:30 pm

      Now that I can grasp. I am slowly realizing that hunger is #1 and in order to prolong life and the people who depend on elephants to provide their sustenance, (without the trophies) is all about survival…something we North Americans really don’t understand.

  63. HOW AWFUL that this happens to those beautiful animals.

  64. Bernd Mergener at 9:45 am

    boy whit that kind of logic we must kill more elephants ,so more villager's can eat ,aren't we such great humanitarians and we get to keep the ivory, a win / win world !!!!!!!!!!!

  65. Anonymous at 3:30 am

    That seems awfully absolute. If it's truly responsible, what's wrong with it.

  66. Tyler Renard at 6:45 am

    But what does it taste like?

  67. Heather Vernon at 5:20 pm

    An estimated 100 African elephants are killed each day by poachers seeking ivory, meat and body parts. Thats not counting the "legal" hunting.. In 2013 poaching rates are continuing to rise, threatening the future of African elephants across the continent. This is NOT sustainable. Gestation in elephants typically lasts around two years with intervals usually lasting four to five years… with the loss of 100+ a day.. they will not be around very long… I agree with Kat Hay.. Killing endangered species is criminal regardless of how "responsibly" you dispense the spoils.

  68. Michael Amurgis at 12:45 am

    While I am not a proponent of hunting them, what other ways?

  69. Anonymous at 11:01 pm

    On a continent where people starve to death on a regular basis, you begrudge them this? I think you failed to see that this isn't the people of africa hunting elephants for food, this is people utilising a food source that would have otherwise gone to waste. Maybe you didn't read this properly, the elephants are hunted for the ivory, the villagers turn up to reap the spoils rather than see them rot in the sun… Also 'there are other ways to feed people'? you're seriously using that as an arguement when talking about poverty-stricken Africa? Weak man..

  70. Tink Nathan at 6:25 am

    elephant population rise every year in Africa The land cansupport only so many the surplus old bulls ae hunted to make room foryounger bulls to breed

  71. Robert Arrington at 1:24 pm

    @kat Hay, your absolutely mis informed! Elephants are not endangered in Africa!
    if they were not managed like this, they would literally eat the place down and die off! that's a fact, not to mention the economic benefit they create from the hunters that come to hunt them!

  72. Steven Woosley at 5:39 pm

    It's funny to me how the people who are against big game hunting give absolutely nothing to the cause and are truly clueless as to how it all works. Without legit elephant hunters there would be no support for the elephants. Without their money the elephants would be left poachers.

    1. S at 2:10 am

      So on one side we have westerners coming to kill elephants amd on the other poachers coming to kill them. What is the difference?

  73. Kenneth Bartlett at 6:37 pm

    I don't need to tell Tink…First Rule of Conservation in Africa: If It Pays, It Stays 😀

  74. Doug Yajko at 12:44 am

    Great series of pics ,should be distributed to the idiots!

  75. Benjamin Delrio at 3:53 am

    Shit dies everyday. Stop being so sensitive.

  76. Kat Hay at 4:26 pm

    Benjamin Delrio Elephants – and many other species – are going extinct because of human impact. Stop being so insensitive. Would you be expecting any sensitivity to your premature and unnecessary death?

  77. Benjamin Delrio at 10:28 pm

    Kat Hay Elephants aren't going extinct anytime soon. In fact there are more elephants than there were a hundred years ago. WWF themselves estimated that the population size of African elephants was around 700,000. That's more elephants than there are in my city.

    Did you know WWF themselves supports the hunting of elephants for conservation purposes. It's actually much more effective in raising money for building national parks; to make sure many other endangered animals have a much wider range of protection. The reason why it's better than donating is because you have more incentive to give money and your also subjected to pay a $5000 fee. Not only that, but the ivory from the tusks is sold to make even more money for conserving wildlife!

    Now I know enough about elephants to understand that they are intelligent sensitive creatures who actually visit the corpse of their dead sibling every now and then to grieve, but the elephants that are hunted are old males that live on their own. Ones that have already inseminated a female which can give birth to maintain population. So nothing is truly affected.

    I'm pleased to hear that you care so much about nature and are willing to criticize someone for killing elephants but you're really just hurting honest people who are trying to help more than harm. I think you should use all this energy you're putting out to good use. You could donate money to save the Javan rhino. There are only about 50 left in the wild in a tiny forest on the west of the javan island. I can tell you're a passionate person and I think you would do great things if you put that negative energy to good use 🙂 Sorry for lashing out at you earlier.

    1. Chibs at 9:46 pm

      good contribution to the conversation. If the elephant population, in this case density, is not controlled other animals/plants will suffer.

      1. S at 2:16 am

        Sorry but that’s not actually correct. The wwf only supports hunting in very limited contexts and in very rare cases. If you want to cite your source on your BS please feel free to do so, but their own website disagrees with you.

    1. Cory Glauner at 4:11 am

      Kat,
      Yes. In some places they are. Ironically, those places are typically the ones where hunting was banned and hence there was no monetary value for the elephants other than their ivory. So, poaching becomes rampant and… they become endangered. It has happened time and time again, and still people refuse to learn from history.

  78. Jeffrey Kerns at 6:54 pm

    Elephants have feeling, mourn loss and do have graveyard! They even paint self portraits and murder people because they are people and remember seeing elephants slaughtered by them. This is not education, this is wrong and should be done with, we are already loosing the tiger. Greed is the only reason these animals are destroyed.

  79. William Hannah at 11:55 pm

    Benjamin Delrio you may support what you said well, but your comment: "Shit dies everyday. Stop being so sensitive." Shows your real mentality. I would have probably agreed with you, had you not said that like a toddler.

  80. Benjamin Delrio at 2:06 am

    William Hannah You're very right. That was out of line.

  81. Benjamin Delrio at 2:06 am

    William Hannah You're very right. That was out of line.

  82. James Kipterem at 10:52 am

    This is a new way of second colonization. Western countries should stop colonizing us indirectly through our wildlife.

  83. Andrew Wildman at 5:21 pm

    “nearly double the amount of elephants that the environment has the capacity to support, so elephant hunting is an important ” and also more humans that the world can support so when are they going to be culled. in the interests of conservation?

  84. jack at 3:41 pm

    Thats what happens when all the farmers who used to grow and cultivate food are murdered and pushed of the land. That is the truth….

  85. Michael James Smith at 3:11 pm

    That is by design. They are over populated, so they are trying to bring the population down to a level which the environment can support and they they'll reduce the number that hunters are allowed to take, when you think about it 96 out of 70,000 will take a while to make any sort of impact. When they reach a environmentally sustainable level, they change the number that can be taken a year to allow the population to neither grow or shrink so that way they thrive better, it actually helps the animal, just like the same process helps every other animal on the planet.

  86. Michael James Smith at 3:19 pm

    They actually do it because they care. Hunters care more for animals and their populations than 99% of animal rights activists such as yourself. Taking these elephants lives is a good thing, and heres why. If you allow their population to stay at the level that it is, then theyll begin to run out of resoources because there is only enough to support a certain number, so going over that number will start to cause disease and famine among the animals, which is far worse for them as a whole than a few of the oldest ones that really dont serve much of a purpose to the population anymore. They've already reproduced as much as they can, they're too old to compete to lead any of the small groups, and they spend pretty much all there time alone just waiting to die, and so those are the ones legal hunters take, and then the people in communities around them benefit in the form of much needed food, and all monetary gains go towards funds set up to help stop the poachers and ivory hunters, and protect the ones that still serve a purpose to the animal population. This process helps a whole lot more than it does any harm.

    1. S at 2:20 am

      The money actually goes right into the hands of corrupt government officials and western hunting safari guide companies. There is little to no evidence it goes to actual conservation. And dollar per dollar ecotourism provides more to local communities and has provided more land to game reserves. So cut the justification for sociopathy.

  87. Michael James Smith at 3:19 pm

    They actually do it because they care. Hunters care more for animals and their populations than 99% of animal rights activists such as yourself. Taking these elephants lives is a good thing, and heres why. If you allow their population to stay at the level that it is, then theyll begin to run out of resoources because there is only enough to support a certain number, so going over that number will start to cause disease and famine among the animals, which is far worse for them as a whole than a few of the oldest ones that really dont serve much of a purpose to the population anymore. They've already reproduced as much as they can, they're too old to compete to lead any of the small groups, and they spend pretty much all there time alone just waiting to die, and so those are the ones legal hunters take, and then the people in communities around them benefit in the form of much needed food, and all monetary gains go towards funds set up to help stop the poachers and ivory hunters, and protect the ones that still serve a purpose to the animal population. This process helps a whole lot more than it does any harm.

  88. Theresa Witbooi at 10:48 pm

    Exactly,I dont see Zimbabweans any richer from this practise,and that there is an over population of elephants impossible,impossible,the elephants in the Knysna area of SA did become extinct hunting,elephants do not breed at a rapid rate like mice, rabbits,or hamsters

  89. Theresa Witbooi at 10:50 pm

    Benjamin Delrio They not going extinct soon,do you live in Africa?sure as hell they become extinct,in the one area,they did become extinct,and then protection laws came into effect

  90. Lee A. Schlanger at 2:12 pm

    Michael, not true that number is based on poachers killing them not by the one or two killed by legal hunters.

  91. John Goodman at 3:11 pm

    Elephants are highly intelligent, and are being terrorized by modern hunting practices. No place is safe, no lace to run, and no place to hide. They are constantly being badgered within stamp-size game parks. Perhaps they should be culled due to shrinking habitat, but IT IS BARBARIC. Maybe sterilize a few, but murder (with all the elephants watching)?? It is NOT Africa 1950. The villagers are being opportunistic, and do NOT require elephant meat.

  92. emily at 12:32 am

    omg you have to have a seriously low IQ to believe elephants are on the verge of extinction. One 96 elephants are killed everyday due to dumb fucks like you. It takes 2 years for an elephant to have a baby and they typically only have one at a time. Do the math you degenerate redneck inbreads. I wish you were the one’s going extinct. Lick my fucking asshole you pieces of shit. You’re worthless to this world

    1. Michele Vernet at 11:19 am

      What are you saying you foul mouth? Elephants ARE NOT ON THE VERGE OF EXTINCTION? YOU ARE THE IGNORANT ONE IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE THEY’RE BEING SLAUGHTERED WANTONLY!

  93. emily at 12:36 am

    It takes a seriously unintelligent person to argue elephants aren’t on the brink of extinction. It’s mind-blowing what hunters will lie to themselves about. Any 1st grader knows, that if you subtract a number from another number, the number goes down, not up.

    1. Kirk Steward at 1:30 pm

      Please back up your comment with some legit facts because the IUCN has elephants listed as vulnerable which is no where near extinction. Maybe you should rely on the actual facts instead of a first grade education?

  94. Samantha at 11:57 am

    If all this was fact then I could understand it, the fact these hunters take trophy photos is sickening! And proves the respect they had for the beautiful animal, and the money doesn’t go into the communities that need it, it goes to the greedy officials. FACT! And these hunters don’t just pay to kill elephants, but other endangered animals, for their trophy photos. I wonder how many treasure those photos now that so many are being made public!

    1. Kirk Steward at 1:26 pm

      1) Hunters fund
      the majority of wildlife management. They are the means by which an ecosystem
      is balanced, taking the necessary number of animals (as determined by wildlife
      biologists) to sustain healthy populations of every species. There is a limit
      to what any area can support, this is called its “carrying capacity” & must
      be maintained. That requires removal of some animals to prevent overpopulation.
      It’s about maintaining a balance. Hunters provide & fund that balance!

      2) When animal populations exceed the carrying capacity of their habitat they
      often begin encroaching on human populated areas. From wildlife herds trampling
      and eating crop fields to car/wildlife accidents and even attacks by predatory
      wildlife… an overabundance of wildlife species in any given ecosystem can be
      dangerous to humans. When any wildlife population exceeds its carrying capacity
      starvation, disease and conflict is nature’s way of restoring balance. Hunting
      is much more humane, beneficial, productive and healthy!

      3) Just in Botswana, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa, Tanzania,
      Zambia and Zimbabwe alone the annual economic impact of hunting related tourism
      reaches $426,000,000 in contributions to GDP, $326,000,000 in direct spending
      and supports over 53,000 jobs!

      4) Because of funding from hunters there is currently 1.4 million square
      kilometers of land conserved for hunting in Africa!

      5) Money from hunters is the largest contribution to help end poaching in
      Africa.

      6) The local villages that sponsor and support safari hunting get the majority
      of their meat for food and leather goods from donated meat and hides from safari
      hunts. In Africa not a single bit of that delicious,
      nutritious and precious meat goes to waste!!! In fact, there are wanton waste
      laws that make wasting wild game meat a crime! (YES… this includes lion,
      elephant and other “exotic” game animals! If it’s made of meat it is edible.
      Just because you’ve never seen it at the grocery store doesn’t mean it’s not
      good for food!)

      7) Wild game meat has been scientifically proven to be of better quality, more
      nutritious and more beneficial than store bought meat from livestock sources.

      8) Wild game meat is a delicious treasured delicacy among many. There is no
      rational reason why people should be relegated to only eating beef, pork and
      chicken.

      9) It is illegal to hunt endangered species. Most people don’t know enough
      about wildlife populations to even realize what truly is or is not endangered.
      People see a photo of a hunted animal that they are not familiar with and
      assume that it is endangered when in reality it is a very prolific species.

      10) Actual wildlife experts such as Rosie Cooney, from the IUCN agree on such
      sentiments as,

      “There are only two places on earth where wildlife on a large scale has
      actually increased in the 20th century, and those are North America and
      Southern Africa. Both of those models of conservation were built around
      hunting.”

  95. Jon D. Kelley at 8:20 pm

    Some things never change – John “Pondoro” Taylor detailed much the same thing happening in his _African Rifles and Cartridges_ in the 1940s. Almost a “carnival” atmosphere around an elephant carcass.

    Just like when anything else gets hunted – the locals come out of the ground to get a chunk. Nothing dies of old age in the African wild. Nothing killed in the African wild gets wasted.

    But, that’s what the bunny-huggers never bother to find out – African hunt trips are not only resource /management/ tools, but are also resource /provision/ tools for the local villagers!

  96. Ken Mackenzie at 5:01 am

    Like locusts. There’s a lot to be said for the likes of AIDS and Ebola. Killer diseases like these always originate in toilets like this. It’s natures way of getting her own back. There are some races that simply deserve to be wiped out, Africa is one of them, followed closely by India Pakistan and the Middle East. This planet would be far better off if at least half of the human race was wiped out, these four countries would make a good start.

    1. Rose Elaine Joyce at 5:16 pm

      May your wish you wish for others be granted to you and your family.

    2. ctulpa at 3:13 pm

      Really Ken? You believe Africa is a country?

  97. Betty at 10:19 am

    This bunny hugger is wondering what happens to the 27 + 13 elephants that were poisoned in Zimbabwe?

    It isn’t about being a bunny hugger, it’s as much about the ivory is funding terrorist activities as all that other illegal activities.

    1. Erika at 12:50 pm

      Thank you! Just the beginning of this issue too! Nobody said elephants were on the verge of extinction everywhere but, they are in my parts, along with rhino and the consevation argument is just an excuse to kill for ivory. Just because starving ppl eat the meat too, does not mean they are killing them for those ppl to eat. They are killing for trophy. The conservation argument has made many species on the verge of extinction at one time or another. There are reserves for these animals and other solutions. Elephants are also incredibly smart, social animals, and even cry, and mourn. Many babys are left alone, with no parent to keep them safe. They are community animals but, that isnt a replacement for their parent. If a bull is dangerous and cant be handled any other way, then i am ok with it, though it makes me sad but, that isnt whats going on. These trophy hunters violate laws to kill these beautiful animals and ppl feel sorry for them when the animal fights back. If its a sport to the trophy hunter, than its only sporting to allow the animal the right to fight back. May the best beast win. Im on the side of the elephants, since there are more elephants being killed than hunters. Sorry. I have respect for human life but, the hunters know there is a risk and do it anyway. They make their beds.

    2. icanhike at 1:14 pm

      Central Africa has lost 64% of it’s elephant population while the human population has increased exponentially. 100,000 elephants were taken by ivory seeking poachers in 2012 – 2014 alone. Many of these animals are poisoned and die a painful death. These are FACTS. Another fact is that without biodiversity, natural ecosystem become imbalanced which reduces resources (like fresh water) for humans. I can live with the FACT that people like you are completely self serving and do not care about wildlife, but YOU need to live with the fact that without a sustainable ecosystem humans will perish from the Earth.

      1. Gus at 1:07 pm

        Actually legal hunting is sustainable.
        Kenya banned hunting in the 60s and now the ecosystem has been destroyed by elephant s and poachers. Elephant and other specie populations are down. Zimbabwe has sustainable legal hunting which has lead to a constant increase in elephants in the totality of the country. In the regions the elephant population has dropped is where poaching happens.
        Why a hunter hunts is totally irrelevant to the sustainability of hunting. Since the number of permits are given by the biologist which are suppose to determined the sustainability. Emotions play no role in nature.

    3. ACH at 1:24 pm

      Absolutely right, Betty…of course those elephants were poached and not just hunted by someone out of the amazing world of hunters for the sake of…hmmm…
      This article is not exactly true, elephants are very often just left to rot and feed vultures, etc…but a nice try to make it seem like a great thing…they’re hunting and killing, not because they want to feed anyone…they’re trying to gratify something in themselves that’s a tad off…

      1. Emily Jane Davis at 12:47 pm

        I find it appaling, the lies that r told to make killing creatures acceptable. Arent we supposed to b the ones with superior brains?? Is this how we handle r roles as caretakers of God’s kingdom given to us??? Same on mankind. I m for the animals period. Wake up n do the right thing.

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  99. Frida Hackerman at 5:28 pm

    There is NO relevance between killing an elephant for fun or for greed and feeding the poor. People that do so, just kill it for the ivory, are just as bad as the lowest among the lowest. They should not be allowed to live. They are garbage and should be wiped away like flies. So according to the above statement about how necessary the hunting of elephants in Africa is – it’s just shameful to put in that kind of ad when a killer is attacked and the animal is bullet wound. Who wouldn’t attack when you’re about to die.
    From that to then pay for the “poor” guys funeral. That’s how you selling out your company name – Dallas Safari Club! – and at the same time, pay for it too.
    / Frida Hackerman

  100. BOB at 8:58 pm

    http://my.rainforest-alliance.org/site/PageServer?pagename=wildlife_elephant&s_src=mission_wildlife&s_subsrc=wildlife_elephant_lp__cpc&gclid=CI-stZDF6ckCFVBffgodtOEAHQ” It is thought that from 1930-1940 there were 3 to 5 MILLION African elephants roaming the continent. Now in Western Africa elephant populations are counted in the tens or hundreds.”

  101. Rich at 9:58 pm

    Hunted all my life. Love hunting but love elephants much more. Just couldn’t do it. I could honestly shoot an elephant poacher though. I’d try to hit him in the foot. ?

  102. Webb Glauner at 9:37 pm

    Riddle me this:
    You’re at a fancy restaurant. You order a steak and six scallops. You eat half of the steak and four of the scallops, throwing the rest away. You then go home, read this blog post, and talk about a “waste of life”. Every part of that elephant was used. You threw away half a steak and two scallops. What’s the real waste of life?

    1. Cory Glauner at 8:59 am

      BAM! So true.

    2. guest at 6:49 pm

      Renewable resources. Elephants are not.

      1. Kirk Steward at 1:23 pm

        So elephants aren’t renewable? HHMMM… and here all this time I thought that they bred and had offspring!! Who knew?

      2. Everett Robyne Baldwin at 11:32 pm

        I could have swore that Zimbabwe alone had 70,000 elephants, twice the number the country can support. That sounds pretty renewable to me. Not to mention that every bite of the culled elephant is used. I don’t see a problem. I’ve seen a pride of lions take all night to eat a Cape Buffalo alive from the outside in, so Mother Nature is Queen when it comes to cruelty. The best death those animals will ever get will be from a hunter’s bullet. The anti’s who get their meat at Safeway never talk about how damn cruel nature is, and how being eaten alive is the name of the game for many animals.

  103. Carol at 3:34 pm

    How are we to do animals right when we can’t treat people right? So much for mankind!

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  106. Kevin Wallace at 10:50 pm

    The African man continues to be scavengers on his own land instead of protectors. They join forces with foreign savages and animals have no chance. Depraved European cavemen have settled in and make a living killing animals without cease. Given African ineptitude Asians have now joined the feast and are eating away remaining life. The local men collect their trinkets and currency, and watch paradise burn. Earth will have to reset itself near future . . . and party over.

  107. Liberalismsucks at 4:58 pm

    PETA and LIBERALS, both radical hypocrites who would smash a fellow human in the head to save an animal.

  108. Kirk Steward at 8:00 pm

    apaddler, Well, typically humans use their intellect to develop areas and technologies to increase the carrying capacity of their habitat. You know, we build things like farms and cities and such…. OR…. we move to another area that has a more sufficient carrying capacity. Animals can’t do things like that. Can I explain anything else to you?

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